I have seen an issue that I have on two HTPC’s in our house. My current environment on the two HTPCs are Dell Studio systems each with Quad Intel Processoprs, Q6600, and each has 8 GB’s of main memory. Both are running Windows 7 RTM. Also both HTPC are using Intel Pro/1000 PT Gigabit NIC’s. For Blu-Ray play back I am using Arcsoft TMT 3 at patch level 140.
All of my movies are stored on two NetGear NAS units and connected to the network with teamed NIC’s. The entire network is gigabit based with a Dell PowerConnect 2716 switch.
Now in Media Browser when I select a Blu-ray movie to play via TMT the video shutters while the Audio is playing at it’s normal speed. At first I thought it was a TMT issue until I tried playing the same movie with My Movies 2.56 and it played just fine.
I'm hoping to get a fix so that I can play all of my movies with MediaBrowser.
This could relate to being launched from an MCML app, can you confirm this works fine with OML or another MCML based application?
I don’t have OML downloaded on any of my machines. But I have been following the development of MM V3. I came across this interesting thread on their forum, http://www.mymovies.dk/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=13377 It discusses how the new MM V3 also has issues when playing Blu-Ray movies as I have seen with MB. And also would explain why MM2 is able to play them, non-MCML.
I just hope this issue can be sorted out for the next release of MB now that I have an idea as too when that is. I much perfer MB to MM. MB is much more flexable as far as it’s on-screen presentation.
It appears that one of the latest builds, 1376 I believe, has somewhat corrected the issue. Even after appling the latest patch for TMT 3, .160, I still had the shutter at the beginning of a BluRay movie. But I installed the new build I had and so far it seems to be working again.
Now If I could remember how I did the final build of the installer to try the latest version that would be great. The Wiki seems to be somewhat out of date concerning the build of the application. I'm a program but not with the latest programming languages available from MS.
Another update. As the movie goes along the play back is somewhat a little jerky here and there…
I had this once yesterday, while there was still another movie (mkv) semi-open. (movie window upper right corner was still on)
A restart of the bluray fixed this. I believe this is not an issue. I never had this problem before.
http://www.mymovies.dk/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=13377
Haha, that was me. Please look at steps to reproduce and I am glad to help if I can.
Daz42.
im having the same problem with video jagger when i try to play a bluray from media browser plays ok from my movies pre release
Is this the fix for this? http://www.mediabrowser.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3624#p25951
No, I have aero disabled – fulll stop. Still have the stuttering!
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I do have stuttering as well.. I cannot trace it though.
I can start the same movie 5 times in a row and it stutters, but on the sixth try it won’t.
I still don’t belive that this issue is related to mediabrowser
I have tried the new version and I still have the stuttering. I am confident that MB is causing it as when I close it while the movie is playing with TMT, the stuttering stops. I had hoped that this would be fixed (as MyMovies has fixed it) so I will now have to look toward MyMovies. TMT and BD is widely used with Media Center so I am surprised that this did not get priority.
The problem is that it is highly dependent on the individual setup. So, its very hard to track down the real issue. I use TMT3 and view BD almost exclusively with no issues…
Just like to add i have this problem also, Running windows 7 64bit rtm. Using media browser to mount and iso bluray for playbak with tmt3 results in terrible video stutter. When the same blu-ray iso is lauched from the arcsoft plugin itself it plays fine seems like media browser is hoggin up to much ram. This was working fine in earlier builds (2.1.1) so i feel it is an issue with the new release. Please Please fixed this i love media browser and had this working perfectly in older builds.
this definately an issue with the new build (2.1.3) as i have reverted to 2.1.0 and 2.1.1 and the issue dissappers with theses older builds. really hope the developer can find some time to fix this a s the new build has some great new tweaks and features but this makes it unuseable for me
I have a suggestion: Would it be possible to quit Mediabrowser when an external player is called (maybe by user choice in the configuration)
If the problem does not occur when mediabrowser is running in the background i would be willing to just restart mediabrowser after i exit from TMT
Personally, I'd rather figure out whatever is going on and stop that while the movie is playing.
hi folks just to let you know i think i tracked down my issue, before i believed that this issue was build 2.1.3 specific but i then started to see it happen in earlier builds, so i then started to think network bandwidth issues and it seems this is partly to blame (i have gigabit lan). I have created a static link for the imagesbyname folder on my server so every pc running mediabrowser has the same genre,actor and studio images. i decided to deleted the link and the stuttering problem was gone when i mounted the image via media browser for playback in the tmt3 media center plugin (using auto play). i then re added the link and the stuttering re-appeared. My conclusion is that a mix of mediabrowser hogging ram and network bandwith while caching the images from the imagesbyname folder over the network is causing my specific problem. Im am going to re-install the 2.1.3 pheonix build and add the static link and leave it to cache the images for a long time and see if the stuttering dissappears I will report back with the results at a later date. I have know idea if this will help any others with this problem as it will deppend if you are hosting the imagesbyname folder on a netwok resourse or not. (excuse the grammar and typing im in a hurry)
Good news, well for me anyway, moving my imagesbyname folder to the local harddrive solved the stutter problems. seems caching the imagesbynamefolder over the netwrok while playing a bluray is to much. hope it helps others, if not good luck with the problem
I have disabled internet metadata fetching, and the stuttering is less visible but still there. There is another bug that metadata fetching cannot be stopped, maybe this is the possible cause. Otherwise can be an issue related to screen painting while BR is playing (see the workaround section I filled).
Awesome detective work alesbal, I hope more people upvote your workaround.
It totally makes sense to minimize the mce window prior to playback, the directdraw surface is exclusive so you are forced to render using software. I noticed this when I played around with VLC
Top marks alesbal, I will try this later on and report the results from my config.
Thanks guys. I'm going to move the waitforexit in another thread (since the playmedia is launched on UI thread I would like avoid blocking it), and let you know if it’s a final solution.
Please let me know if I can help also on other bugs. Consider I have reviewd code and I have found some parts can be optimized (i.e. there are some locks that can be avoided). Furthermore, I'm trying to remove the resume play handling of MB and use instead the native Win7 resume. I'll keep you update.
I have updated workaround section, with added ISO playback handling when autoplay of MCE cause launching of an external player. Also note, I think we should add the ability to configure for a media type to launch an MCE entrypoint istead of an external player, to fully leverage new BR/HDVD player that are intergrated in MCE UI.
Also note, I think we should add the ability to configure for a media type to launch an MCE entrypoint istead of an external player, to fully leverage new BR/HDVD player that are intergrated in MCE UI.
I love this idea. Please post it as a separate feature request.
Consider it done! :) Consider apart BR/HDVD integraion, it also enable addidional add-ins that work on Media Type to be easily integrated with MB
Hi alesbal, I would like to try the workarounds you suggested but I can’t locate the PlayInternal.cs file to edit. Can you point me in the right direction please? Thanks!
the file is PlayExternal.cs, the method name is PlayInternal(). Bye, Alex
About the entrypoint launch I did some trials and was able to launch TMT3 entrypoint in case of BDMV playback. The problem is their HTML addin use MediaContext.GetProperty(“Name”) to get the filename to play, and it’s readonly, so it’s not possible to populate. Only MCE populate it with the drive letter in case of AutoPlay. If anybody knows how to populate above property with the right path before launching entrypoint is very welcome.
So at the moment the only workaround is to minimize MCE when playing BR/HDVD from folder (applicable only to TMT2/3, since PDVD doesn’t support play from folder), or playing from ISO in case of TMT2 since TMT2 is always an external player. Playing from ISO, if configured with auto-play, gives no problem with TMT3 and PDVD9 since their MCE integration add-in is automatically started.
Alex
I should have fixed the problem. The correct PlayableExternal.cd file is now checked in. I thanks a lot SAM to have accepted my request to become an active MB developer!
Alex,
Feel free to mark the item as fixed, you will get a reputation bonus :p thanks for fixing it.