Feature Actor Description / Information

 
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When you have a list of Actors for a movie, it’s great that the pictures come up, and it’s also great that when you click on them it shows what other movie they are in!

However, it’d be really nice to also have a “Bio” of them. A little write up about them. I know the information is readily available.

I think that mymovies does this, and is the only feature I miss from mm3 that mb does not have.

 
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  • Created:over 3 years ago

I approve this, but a dev will need to take ownership of this and design it.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago
  • Modified:over 3 years ago

How about an EBR plugin special here!

I'm thinking while your in the movie details page and your focus is sitting on an actor in the list you hit *. Your nice little popup menu comes up, and you have a BIO choice on the menu. Click it for a popup window similiar to what vanilla does with the # button giving us scrollable bio info and clickable link to their movies. Wow that sounds so simple… lol.

 
  • I'd rather see the Bio and Image rather than the movies that actor is in. A reworked page that shows both bio & movies would be best – Redshirt over 3 years ago
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Nope, I would like this functionality built in to MB, its core to the product. Perhaps the images by name refactor should allow for the metadata.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Wow that would be great if it could be implemented into the core. Hope the ideas are helping Sam.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

+1 Like this option hope it will be picked-up soon

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Anybody got any design ideas for this, would love to see this implemented.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago
  • Modified:over 3 years ago

I too would like to see this as a feature in future MB releases.

I use the Default theme view, so I don’t know how this would play amongst other themes.

Thumbstrip View once you drill down to Actor/Actress information seems to present the best design layout for this. Bio information could be presented/overlayed on top of where the Backdrop image is displayed for the current highlighted movie, that would give you the best real estate on the screen to display the information. Image of the Actor/Actress from IBN can be displayed to the left of the Biography information.

I have a crude mockup of this view, but don’t know how to include an attachment in this reply. The image button is asking for a URL, rather then allowing me to simply display and/or attach the .jpg file. If someone can direct me on how to do this, I will gladly share the display mockup here.

I like Bio information from AllMovie.com link text

Information can be quite extensive, so the window would need to be addressable by remote and then allow you to scroll up/down to view all information.

My thoughts anyway. Anyone and everyone can feel free to jump in with thoughts/comments.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago
  • Modified:over 3 years ago

Welcome aboard blade you to need put images in this format for the tracker

<img src="http://link address here"

Make sure you click the design tab at the top of topic and place your pics and more info about your idea there.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Big ArrickSon,

Thanks for the welcome, but I don’t understand the image requirement tag.

I have an image in the following location that I would like to attach.

C:\Public\Pictures\MediaBrowser – Actor Bio Layout Example.jpg

What is the proper tag to include in my reply? Sorry for the newb question.

 
  • You'd have to upload the image to a hosting service such as imageshack or photobucket and then use the embed code in your post. – Shidojin over 3 years ago
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Where is this BIO going to come from? Is the plan to manually enter BIO’s for each person?

I was looking at themoviedb.org, and they have people in their DB. Why doesn’t MB grab BIO’s and pics from there?

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Mockup I was referencing in previous post.

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  • the trouble with this mockup is, how do you move between actors, when do you display the box … etc. – sam over 3 years ago
  • Sam – I was thinking of something that was actor specific and not a generic actor browse. If I click on a movie and see an actor of interest, I could drill down to the actor, see all Movies I have of them and get a Bio for further info. But, I can see where a true browse function of Bio’s for all actors in a movie would be nice as well. It would definitely take a different screen view to accomplish this, in my opinion. I will think about it some more and see if any layouts come to mind. – blade005 over 3 years ago
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

OK… But where is that data going to come from?

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Here is an example of the website blade suggested pointing to an actors bio page.

http://www.allmovie.com/artist/brandon-routh-415504

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

looking themoviedb.org looks like it has a facts section but its very basic, this allmovie.com looks perfect for this, never even heard of this site good find blade.

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Nice first mockup, when I get some extra time I will see if i can play. Developers can we add a info screen pop up when your on a actors name / image you hit * media browser recoginizes your focus is on a actors name, since it recognizes this * menu has a new button. Bio, then you click bio and a large pop up scrollable window comes up with actors picture. You can then scroll up and down to read and have a close button to return to previous focus.

Wild dreams of mine… wild dreams.

 
  • i like this idea! – birkoff over 3 years ago
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

Does it have an API? And does it cost money?

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

not finding any info on api on the site unfortunately

 
 
  • Created:over 3 years ago

i like every single detail of that blade005. well done!

 
 
  • Created:about 3 years ago
  • Modified:about 3 years ago by chip

Not sure if this feature is still on the radar – however if it is to be (or is already being) developed then I reckon it would also be a nice addition to not only display the movies that are in your collection but also display all movies that the actor/actress is in (ie have a list of all movies but somehow identify the ones which are included in you own collection).

 
 
  • Created:about 3 years ago

+1 hope someone picks this up

 
 
  • Created:about 3 years ago

Using a wish here to make it 9 supporters. Hoping a dev steps in. Actor bios would be fantastic and don’t want to see this idea fade away and forgotton.

 
 
  • Created:about 3 years ago

I like the pop-up idea which you will get when you are actually focused on an actors image. The mock-up, although good, seems a little complicated to achieve and random. For example would it be a random actor or the first in the list? Who decides which actor would be of interest and how?

 
  • Currently when you select an actor it’s directed to titles that actor appears in within your collection. Splitting the screen to include the bios, retrieved from imdb, allmovie, etc. (as mocked by blade005) looks clean. An enlarged pic or setting the jpg file as a backdrop.jpg would be nice too. – brazen1 about 3 years ago
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago

Just added my wish to this.

Is there any progress please ??

 
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago
  • Modified:almost 3 years ago

+1

I would like to see this implimented. Have, as an option in configurator, that when you click on an actor you get 1) Biographpy, or 2) Other movies with the actor (which I really don’t use that much.

 
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago

added mockup to design tab.

 
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago

is there still a possibility of this getting done?

 
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago

I really like the bio idea. I would expand it to include an optional full search of movies the actor is in (beyond the local media library). This is similar to the Actor drill down capability built into Windows Media Center. I find this missing from Media Browser and very useful.

In a perfect world you could flag any movies not already in the library so they could be recorded from the Guide or added to the Netflix queue.

 
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago

I asked Fatal to add this feature to Metabrowser in anticipation of this feature becoming available in MediaBrowser:

http://v2.themetabrowser.com/issues/273

He is happy to add this such that a biography.xml page can be created for each actor and saved to the pertinent IBN/People/Actor directories but has requested a naming convention for the metadata. If we could get a consensus on a naming convention for the metadata tags then we'd be a little closer to this becoming a reality.

I lifted the example from http://api.themoviedb.org/2.1/methods/Person.getInfo:

  <people>
    <person>
      <popularity>3</popularity>
      <name>Brad Pitt</name>
      <also_known_as>William Bradley</also_known_as>
      <id>287</id>
      <biography>William Bradley &quot;Brad&quot; Pitt (born December 18, 1963) is an American actor and film producer. Pitt has received two Academy Award nominations and four Golden Globe Award nominations, winning one. He has been described as one of the world's most attractive men, a label for which he has received substantial media attention.</biography>
      <known_movies>40</known_movies>
      <birthday>1963-12-18</birthday>
      <birthplace>Shawnee, Oklahoma, United States</birthplace>
      <url>http://www.themoviedb.org/person/287&lt;;/url&gt;
      <filmography>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/63" name="Twelve Monkeys" department="Actors" character="Jeffrey Goines" job="Actor" id="63"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/107" name="Snatch" department="Actors" character="Mickey O'Neil" job="Actor" id="107"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/161" name="Ocean's Eleven" department="Actors" character="Rusty Ryan" job="Actor" id="161"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/163" name="Ocean's Twelve" department="Actors" character="Rusty Ryan" job="Actor" id="163"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/293" name="A River Runs Throught It" department="Actors" character="     Paul Maclean" job="Actor" id="293"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/297" name="Meet Joe Black" department="Actors" character="Joe Black" job="Actor" id="297"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/298" name="Ocean's Thirteen" department="Actors" character=" Robert &#8220;Rusty&#8221; Charles Ryan" job="Actor" id="298"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/319" name="True Romance" department="Actors" character="Floyd" job="Actor" id="319"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/492" name="Being John Malkovich" department="Actors" character="Himself" job="Actor" id="492"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/550" name="Fight Club" department="Actors" character="Tyler Durden" job="Actor" id="550"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/628" name="Interview with the Vampire" department="Actors" character="Louis de Pointe du Lac" job="Actor" id="628"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/652" name="Troy" department="Actors" character="Achilles" job="Actor" id="652"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/652" name="Troy" department="Production" character="" job="Other" id="652"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/787" name="Mr. &amp; Mrs. Smith " department="Actors" character="John Smith" job="Actor" id="787"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/807" name="Se7en" department="Actors" character="Detective David Mills" job="Actor" id="807"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/819" name="Sleepers" department="Actors" character="Michael Sullivan" job="Actor" id="819"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/978" name="Seven Years in Tibet" department="Actors" character="Heinrich Harrer" job="Actor" id="978"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1164" name="Babel" department="Actors" character="Richard" job="Actor" id="1164"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1422" name="The Departed" department="Production" character="" job="Producer" id="1422"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1535" name="Spy Game" department="Actors" character="Tom Bishop" job="Actor" id="1535"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1541" name="Thelma &amp; Louise " department="Actors" character="J.D." job="Actor" id="1541"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1988" name="A Mighty Heart" department="Production" character="" job="Producer" id="1988"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4476" name="Legends of the Fall " department="Actors" character="Tristan Ludlow" job="Actor" id="4476"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4477" name="The Devil's Own " department="Actors" character="Frankie McGuire" job="Actor" id="4477"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4512" name="The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" department="Actors" character="Jesse James" job="Actor" id="4512"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4512" name="The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" department="Production" character="" job="Producer" id="4512"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4912" name="Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" department="Actors" character="Game Show Kandidat" job="Actor" id="4912"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4922" name="The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" department="Actors" character="Benjamin Button" job="Actor" id="4922"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4944" name="Burn After Reading" department="Actors" character="Chad Feldheimer" job="Actor" id="4944"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/6073" name="The Mexican" department="Actors" character="Jerry Welbach" job="Actor" id="6073"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/7510" name="Running with Scissors" department="Production" character="" job="Producer" id="7510"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8947" name="Dirty Tricks" department="Actors" character="John Dean" job="Actor" id="8947"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8967" name="Tree of Life" department="Actors" character="n.a." job="Actor" id="8967"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10504" name="The Killer" department="Production" character="" job="Producer" id="10504"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10909" name="Kalifornia" department="Actors" character="Early Grayce" job="Actor" id="10909"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10917" name="Too Young to Die?" department="Actors" character="  Billy Canton" job="Actor" id="10917"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14239" name="Cool World" department="Actors" character="Detective Frank Harris" job="Actor" id="14239"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14411" name="Sinbad - Legend of the Seven Seas" department="Actors" character="Sinbad" job="Actor" id="14411"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/16869" name="Inglourious Basterds" department="Actors" character="Lt. Aldo Raine " job="Actor" id="16869"/>
        <movie url="http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/30565" name="The Hamster Factor and Other Tales of Twelve Monkeys " department="Actors" character="Himself" job="Actor" id="30565"/>
      </filmography>
      <images>
        <image type="profile" url="http://hwcdn.themoviedb.org/profiles/00e/4bc977ad017a3c182400000e/brad-pitt-original.jpg" size="original" id="4bc977ad017a3c182400000e"/>
        <image type="profile" url="http://hwcdn.themoviedb.org/profiles/00e/4bc977ad017a3c182400000e/brad-pitt-profile.jpg" size="profile" id="4bc977ad017a3c182400000e"/>
        <image type="profile" url="http://hwcdn.themoviedb.org/profiles/00e/4bc977ad017a3c182400000e/brad-pitt-thumb.jpg" size="thumb" id="4bc977ad017a3c182400000e"/>
      </images>
      <version>31</version>
      <last_modified_at>2010-04-26 03:26:14</last_modified_at>
    </person>
  </people>
 
  • this is nearly perfect. when there is support for movienames in different languages, it would perfect. – Maximus1 almost 3 years ago
 
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My suggestion would be to change a couple of the tag names and maybe add a Nationality/Country tag:

  <people>
    <person>
      <popularity>3</popularity>
      <actor>Brad Pitt</actor>
      <Nationality>USA</Nationality>
      <BornAs>William Bradley Pitt</BornAs>
      <Alias>Buratto Pitto</Alias>
      <id>287</id>
      <biography>William Bradley &quot;Brad&quot; Pitt (born December 18, 1963) is an American actor and film producer. Pitt has received two Academy Award nominations and four Golden Globe Award nominations, winning one. He has been described as one of the world's most attractive men, a label for which he has received substantial media attention.</biography>
      <KnownMovies>40</KnownMovies>
      <Birthday>1963-12-18</Birthday>
      <Birthplace>Shawnee, Oklahoma, United States</Birthplace>
      <Filmography>
        <Movie>Twelve Monkeys</Movie>
        <Movie>Snatch</Movie>
        <Movie>Ocean's Eleven</Movie>
        <Movie>Ocean's Twelve</Movie>
        <Movie>A River Runs Throught It</Movie>
        <Movie>.......
      </Filmography>
      <LastModified>2010-04-26 03:26:14</LastModified>
    </person>
  </people>

This info can also be scraped from IMDB as Maximus suggests, IMDB has some info that TMDb does not such as awards/oscars/nominations which could also be incorporated into the metadata structure, something like:

<awards>
   <nominations>20</nominations>
   <Oscars>3</Oscars>
   <GoldenGlobes>2</GoldenGlobes>
   <Emmy>0</Emmy>
   <BAFTA>2</BAFTA>
</awards>

Depending on people’s opinions/thoughts the following could also be scraped for regarding the occupation of each person. Given that some actors branch out into other positions like producing/directing, it would give a brief synopsis of the positions they have held in their career. Whether this information is actually displayed or not would be for the theme developer to decide, but the information could be scraped to be used (or not) and sit in the biography.xml just in case:

<Occupations>
   <Position>Actor</Position>
   <Position>Producer</Position>
   <Position>Executive Producer</Position>
   <Position>Director</Position>
</Occupations>
 
  • I like it Shaolin. – skynet600 almost 3 years ago
  • Although this is doable in metabrowser, one thing to keep in mind is that information for this will keep changing depending on the actors career, unlike movie metdata which remains constant throughout. So maybe consider putting static information in the metadata OR, a better solution would be for this to be built into MediaBrowser itself and gotten live/refreshed every 2 weeks or so when you enter the actor bio page… – fatal almost 3 years ago
  • I think the preferred model would be your later suggestion, giving the ability to update the information as and when the bio is accessed. Quite a few people have expressed a special interest in the filmography being listed in the bio, and as this is a dynamic value like you say it would need updating with the actors career. – Shaolin almost 3 years ago
  • Yes exactly, and with TMDb having the API available (actor search and actor bio) it should be fairly easy to access that information. I think this feature request needs to be changed to maybe a plugin request for mediabrowser or maybe even a core change to add an actor bio page with internet metadata fetching. – fatal almost 3 years ago
 
  • Created:almost 3 years ago
  • Modified:almost 3 years ago

a small query for the actor on imdb should give all the needed information. parsing the entries on the site is a question of 1-2 seconds.

my actor loaders do this with the name and the location of the actorpicture.

the data can placed in the actor folder.

getting the data is realy not a problem. the only problem is to minimize the traffic, but when arrays are used the site must only be downloaded and compared.

sample (not a programming language ;–) )

value = value in bio.xml  ## number of entries on lokal db file
download actorsite in imdb.com  ## or any other site
check betwen <blub> and <bla> and write to array  ## read the site and put all in a array what meets the rule
do so for any other <blub> and <bla> till eof ## till end of site
get number of lines in array ## read the array 
if number of lines == value then return ## should explain itself
else write array into xml  ## if there is a difference rewrite the local db file

a programm for collecting the data is nearly ready. my loaders need only some modifications like writing these db files and a standart for these files.

a site has round about 100kb and no actor makes every day a movie so there shouldn`t be so much traffic for one user.

a suggestion: automaticly uploading the db files to a MB related server would be the best solution to minimize traffic for the online databases like imdb, tvdb, etc. a check for newest data (timehash)will only acept newest data on the server and local. a button for a manual refresh in MB will help to keep data actual on the server.

you get what i mean?

 
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